This was a poorly written book covering most of the basic info about the game which would only interest someone without any previous background. I would ask the other reviewers if they are related to the author! You will find numerous spelling errors throughout the book. A must avoid book!

While the basic information is presented in a concise and well-organized manner, it was very distracting to fight through the grammatical mistakes, punctuation errors and/or typos on nearly every page! The publisher should be ashamed to put out a book that has obviously not been edited.

Came back from Vegas and wanted to learn more so I ordered 6 different books and have tested the strategies. This book was among the top 3 since it covered all aspects of playing craps including money management, a full review of different betting strategies, as well as a quick overview of the basics. Vogel does not unrealistically set your winning expectations as it done by other authors to sell books. I also highly recommend John Patrick's "So You Wanna Be A Gambler: Adv. Craps" book and note that Edell's "How to Make Your Living Playing Craps" may be worth reading as well.

I got this book hoping to find a system. Something that would explain to me a systematic process of betting that would be backed by theory and evidence.

What I got is a sales book. This book is nothing more than a prelude to the Mega-Charting book that he has written. When I buy a book I want that book to have closure. I don't want to buy a book read it and realize that I have to buy 3 more books of the author to actually get to the system.

He repeats everything about 3 times. So the book is 190 pages, but only 63 pages of true information. Oh btw: Zeke if your reading these that is really 63.3333333333, but for this review purpose I rounded to 63. Sounds like the book.

So what did this book do for me. HMMMM! Let's see. I sit here with the following information. Use Place Bets when your charting tells you to. If you ever feel like the 7 is coming then take your bets down. Buy my book on charting.

I am really disappointed in this book.

author writes as if the dice has eyes and a brain .pg. 190 corner shooting\ ;shooters who constantly toss the dice for the corners or aparticular corner have the rarest of rare hot streaks.;;pg. 179 ;i always avoid shooters tossing the dice at an angle into the corners''.pg. 21 ''don't try to out smart the dice. pg.121 dice have no memory' every toss or roll of the diceis completely independent of any previous toss of the dice''. i agree with pg 121 does the author?

What a good easy to read book! I finally learned why I keep losing money betting on the come bets and pass bets all the time. There are many VERY interesting chapters in this book, I especially like how he writes about how COMBINING place bets will give you an added advantage that you don't have with just single betting. Another VERY intersting part (which I havent seen anywhere else) is how to calculate your insurance factor when you play. He also goes into pre-sets and charting. Of course there is a lot of stuff that shouldnt be here and repetitive but all in all this is a wonderful book, it will change your mind about the best ways to play. I would have been happy learning just one thing from it but there were lots of new systems and ideas, well worth the money.

Although the book can be a little preachy, John Patrick takes you thoroughly through every aspect of the game. If you want to get serious about craps, this is the book to read. Not for aggressive gamblers who want to hit it big overnight.

This book is great! It covers a number of right betting techniques, then the don't side then a few hedges and finaly puts them all together in a trend system that wins for me at the $5 table. I have won $540 in 4 sessions starting with a $220 buy in each time (I had one really good session, 2 pretty good, and one loss). And I gave back $100 after I had ended a couple of sessions proving that the displine section of this book is the hardest to master. It is tough to quit when you are ahead... really tough. But at least this book can get you ahead. The rest is up to you. I found this book as complex if not more so than his book titled "Advanced Craps". If you want to stop playing stupid, read this book and play by the rules.

John Patrick is, by far, the authority on gambling- especially at the tables. I have gone from loser (big time) to winner by studying his books and methods. John Patrick's Craps contians not only the best approach to craps ever put on paper, but also gives the reader a foundation with which to attack all games in a casino. My personal experience with Mr. Patrick's books has enabled me to master five different table games. I have become known and respected by many casino personal in Reno, NV as a tough player. I win small amounts consistently. Futhermore, the foundation I have recieved has enabled me to actually learn how to be a competitor (and a fierce one at that) at the low-limit poker games in the Nevada casinos. Be forwarned: John's style is like that of a coach. If you are really timid or thin-skinned, it may not be the book for you (then again, gambling may not be for you either). But, if you are a competitor whose desire is to win, this and all of Mr. Patrick's books are priceless!

I have yet to use the Power Betting Strategy that is explained in this book, but I look forward to trying it on my next trip. I found the author insightful, with a good deal of anecdotal information to go along with his strategy. If I could find a negative (for me), I felt that too many pages were dedicated to discussing cheating and the mechanics involved. However, his fascination with dice "skill shots" was offset by his firm opposition to cheaters at the dice table. Overall, an excellent read. I found the author's honesty and frankness refreshing, in comparison with those books hawking "guaranteed wins" over the casino.

You can make absolute bank with this book and the new book "Get the Edge on Craps: How to control the dice" also found on this site. The book I just mentioned is how to control the dice so you can hold them on average 15-20 minutes every time you step up to the table. Sometimes you can hold them for 45 minutes. It shows you how to set, grip and throw the dice to get predetermined numbers all within 1-2 seconds so the casino does not observe you being a dice mechanic. There are people who do this and make a living at it, such as a person by the name of The mad professor who claims to be a dice mechanic earning 400,000 per year, on dicesetter.com. If you use "Get the Edge on Craps: How to control the dice" along with Conquering Casino Craps you will make about 50,000 per week. In Conquering Casino Craps it has a betting strategy that is devestating to the casinos as it has you betting only the casinos money stating off with 5 dollars with double odds and working your way up to putting down 1,000 on the line with 2,000 in odds all with the cainos money several points later. So it goes 5 with 2x odds, 10 with 2x odds, 25 with 2x odds, 50 with 2x odds, 100 with 2x odds, 100 with 2x odds, 200 with 2x odds, 400 with 2x odds, 600 with 2x odds, 1000 with 2x odds.
This may seem like a lot of points, but this can be done at a not crowded table within 10 minutes if you are on a streak, which you will be constantly with dice control as taught in the aforementioned book. Even with random "chickenfeeder" rollers, I have caught hot streaks of 10 minutes where I have made 14,000 using the above betting stategy. Can you imagine what I would make holding the dice for 20 or 40 minutes? These two books are how to break a dice table. You will have heat from the pit and careful scrutiny of your play, so dont take too long detting the dice. As the dice are being pushed over by the stickman, as a professional, be looking at them and in your mind see what you would have to do to set the dice for the proper set so by the time you have the dice, you just quickly set them in one fluid motion and shoot.
Good Luck. I am thinking about getting a dice team together and going to hit vegas.

If everyone in the casino played like the way it decribes in this book they would have to close the craps tables. I have tried the power system of betting the passline and in computer simulations I have walked away with hundreds of dollars and once even several thousand. I have come up with my own system to improve on this system if anyone is interested. I will email it to you for free. It involves also playing 'dont pass' as there are streaks where the dice are ice cold where you can also make bank.

I had gotten this book from the library about 6 years ago. After running it through the paces of a computer program, I did find that his systems do work.
The systems are based on what goes up, must come down. Well, in real life, that is not always true, at least in your bankrolls time frame. You must use money management. Also, I have found that you MUST run several progressions at the same time. It helps you ride out the ones that have gone a bit long losing.
I found his talk about poss. rigged casinos a bit dated. This was also written before online gambling, which would have been nice. He mentioned several times about the minimum table limits being too high, but they aren't too high online. Too bad those games were avoided because of this.
His talk of God and other things eternal I thought was well done, and did not go on. Plus, you can skip right over it to the systems. Would like to compare notes with others sep2034athotmail.

The systems really work, that's why I gave it 5 stars, but it's too full of syrup to be a really enjoyable read.

People who love the Lord will like this one very much. Atheists will despise it deeply. On the surface it appears to be a collection of mathematical gambling systems, but in his discussion of the phenomenon of luck, he gets into the role of the Almighty, and turns it into a treatise on the spiritual evolution of the human race. An unusual book, notable for its very great integrity. A fun book to read.

I wasn't very impressed with this book in general. While I must admit much of the information is their, by and large I found it lacking when compared to other books of this genre.

Search around some more, their is better quality out there.

This is a great book for beginners or casual players. It gives great descriptions of the bets available to players and also gives good statistics on the bets. Not so great though for strategy. Wouldn't use the strategies they suggest, but I would use the explanations of the bets and the risk associated with them.

This is the best book I ever ever read on this subject. The concepts are laid out in an easy to understand format. It is an excellent book for the novice as well as the experienced player. I especially like the way the Mr. Roto supports his ideas with statistical evidence.

This book does a decent job of defining and describing craps but John Gollehon is a terrible writer. I would recommend Edwin Silberstang's "Winning Casino Craps" as a much better book for a person who wants to win. After reading Silberstang's book, I won over $800. You will not get that from this book.

A friend of mine told me about this book and it helps me understand, enjoy and have more success at the tables. Before, I'd blow through $100 before finishing a drink. Now I make more when I'm winning and quit before losing too much. Also, I don't make sucker bets that dealers try to talk you into. Feel more confident when walking up to a craps table- I don't expect to lose; I know I can win!

I bought this book while on a short vacation in Vegas. After reading the book for a half hour, I then went to the craps table with a simple system that gives the best odds. I won. I WON!! And guess what, craps is THE most action packed exciting game (with the best odds for the player - when played correctly) in Las Vegas. I highly recommend it!!

This book is fine for the beginning dice roller, but not for those who already have some knowledge about craps. The book has a VERY GOOD discussion of the basic rules of the game, odds and the different payouts. I like the chapters on special allowance for both right and wrong betters. I still use the book to refresh my memory sometimes. Other than that, however, the playing systems are nothing great. Pass or Don't Pass with odds. Nothing new here, but a good book for those just starting out in the game of craps.

The text and elaboration on the rules of the game are great for the beginner. The "winner" part, I'm not sure of. I would investigate other books for strategy advice on craps, though I cannot advise which ones.

If you've never played before, this one is good.

Gives a simple method of playing based on mathematical explanation of odds.

My wife sat next to the author on a flight to Las Vegas recently. The conversation eventually came around to gambling in general and craps specifically. She was intrigued by David's approach so he gave her a copy of his book (for free). Upon her return from Vegas, she gave me the book and said, "You may want to try this".

I read the book cover to cover in about an hour. I then logged on to Omni Casino and proceeded to turn a $2,000 bankroll into approximately $9,000 in five days, playing about an hour a day.

The strategy is simple to implement and requires minimal practice to get the hang of it. I actually received a private practice session from David using his personal craps table that he purchased from MGM Grand. I bought in for $500 and walked away an hour later with $800 using David's strategy.

Buy the book. Practice. And then take your bankroll to your closest craps table. You'll be glad you did.

I first read this book when it appeared in '83 and I've given several copies to friends who wanted to demystify what goes on at the craps table. Entertaining stories mixed with expert advice backed up by calculations a math wiz could love!